dichotomy of relevant versus irrelevant, or fair versus unfair, frames the feelings of manyengineers when it comes to their treatment of ethics. Unlike many aspects of engineering ethicslooks mostly in hindsight, not at all with innovation. It is usually seen as a reaction to a crisis.This hindsight is framed by topics that were seen as unimportant, the first pillar of Cech’s theoryof disengagement [17]. The final pillar is prevalent in many undergraduate and graduateengineering departments to an extreme measure. Numerous studies have pointed to the need toweed out the weak students from undergraduate programs. This builds on the very foundations ofengineering education as a vocational degree for the brightest students. This overarching concernwith