Conference Session

A Century of Development, Promotion, and Reform: ASEE and Engineering Education

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2008 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Carol Johnson, New Jersey Institute of Technology

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Liberal Education

., Personal Interview, 2007.14. C. G. Gould and K. Pearce, Information Needs in the Sciences: an Assessment, Mountain View, CA: The Research Libraries Group, 1991.15. B. Sinclair, "Local History and National Culture: Notions on Engineering Professionalism in America," in in The Engineer in America: A Historical Anthology from Technology and Culture, T. S. Reynolds, ed., Chicago, IN: University of Chicago Press, 1971.16. Emmerson, G.S., Engineering Education: A Social History, New York: Crane, Russak, 1973.17. United Engineering Foundation, , accessed Feb. 21, 200818. E. T. J., Layton, "Mirror-Image Twins: The Communities of Science and Technology in 19th-Century America," in The Engineer in America: A

Conference Session

Liberal Education Division Poster Session

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2007 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Daniel Walsh, California Polytechnic State University; Stacey Breitenbach, California Polytechnic State University

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Liberal Education

; (b) an ability to interpret data; (c) an ability to understand the design of a system, component, or process (d) an ability to function on interdisciplinary teams; (e) an ability to identify and help formulate, engineering problems; (f) an understanding of professional and ethical responsibility; (g) an ability to communicate effectively; (h) an ability to understand the impact of engineering solutions (i) an ability to engage in life-long learning; (j) participation in activities related to contemporary societal challenges;In addition, each concentration has learning outcomes peculiar to that track:Management of Technology Concentration1. Ability to analyze

Conference Session

Learning to Communicate with Engineers and Non-Engineers

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2008 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Leslie Potter, Iowa State University; John Jackman, Iowa State University; K. Jo Min, Iowa State University; Matthew Search, Iowa State University

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Liberal Education

Short Assignments,” Proceedings of the 2007 ASEE National Conference.10. Jacquez, R., Gude, V.G., Auzenne, M., Burnham, C., Hanson, A.T., Garland, J., 2006, “Integrating Writing to Provide Context for Teaching the Engineering Design Process,” Proceedings of the 2006 ASEE National Conference.11. Yalvac, B., Smith, H.D., Troy, J.B., and Hirsch, P.,2007, “Promoting Advanced Writing Skills in an Upper- Level Engineering Class,” Journal of Engineering Education, 96(2), 117-128.12. Lord, S., 2007, “Effective ‘Writing to Communicate’ Experiences in Electrical Engineering Courses,” Proceedings of the 2007 ASEE National Conference.13. Kedrowicz, A., 2007, “Developing Communication Competence: a

Conference Session

Philosophy of Engineering Education: Epistemology and Ethics

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2008 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Mark Valenzuela, University of Evansville; James Allen, University of Evansville; Brian Swenty, University of Evansville

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Liberal Education

engineering programs was performed by the authors,the results of which are reported in this paper. As implied in the survey question (“our generaleducation program satisfies the minimal accreditation requirements”), a common perception isthat professional-school accreditation requirements (a) constrain the creative development ofgeneral education programs and (b) are concerned only with the number of humanities and socialscience courses in a general education program. Indeed, previous reviews of general educationprograms have tended to focus on the percentage of the curriculum that is devoted to non-technical topics, as well as on particular kinds of courses (e.g., English, History, Philosophy,etc.). However, educational trends both inside the

Conference Session

Questions of Identity

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2006 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

William Jordan, Baylor University

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Liberal Education

Page 11.142.8such a fashion that the welded joint can be cold reduced on the rolling mill. This was done aspart of your work, but it was done on the evening shift and none of your supervisors are aware ofit. Should you:(a) Patent your technique and make a profit out of it.(b Patent your technique and assign patent rights to your company.(c) Tell your supervisor and let him decide what else to do with the idea.An engineer using a utilitarian approach would examine whether or not the company had aformal intellectual property policy that had been agreed to by all parties. If there was no writtenpolicy, he might very well try to do option (a) and make a profit at the expense of the company.We will examine all three options using a

Conference Session

Writing and Communication II: Practical Perspectives on Teaching and Assessment

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2007 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Kathleen Jernquist, U.S. Coast Guard Academy; David Godfrey, U.S. Coast Guard Academy; Todd Taylor, U.S. Coast Guard Academy

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Liberal Education

what made the journey worthwhile.One final section, “REVIEWING THE JOURNEY” is again focused on the writing process as a Page 12.486.9journey for the author. It discusses the importance of the revision and self-assessment processesand how the writing center can help. A discussion on the grading philosophy of the engineeringdepartment – a generic policy on what constitutes an A, B, C and F paper is under development.Using the HandbookThe following discussion shows some examples that have been included within the EngineeringWriting Handbook and how they have been used within a classroom setting.The sample language charts (Appendices I and II

Conference Session

Innovative Courses/Pedagogies in Liberal Education II

Collection

2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

George Catalano, State University of New York, Binghamton

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Liberal Education

AC 2010-1947: MODELING NATURE: GREEN ENGINEERING FOR ASUSTAINABLE WORLDGeorge Catalano, State University of New York, Binghamton Page 15.881.1© American Society for Engineering Education, 2010 Modeling Nature: Green Engineering for a Sustainable WorldAbstractA new course has been developed and offered which focuses upon sustainable engineering. Thekey elements of the course include introduction to the complex systems, systems engineeringmethods for complex systems, life cycle analysis, hard and soft system methodologies, failureanalysis using rich pictures and reflection upon the impacts engineering has upon both societyand the natural world through consideration of the

Conference Session

Integrating H&SS in Engineering I

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2006 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Arthur Snider, University of South Florida

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Liberal Education

2006-83: LIGHT AND THE ARTS: A CLASS FOR ENGINEERSArthur Snider, University of South Florida Page 11.897.1© American Society for Engineering Education, 2006 Light and the Arts: A Class for EngineersAbstractAn exposure to the arts is an essential part of every undergraduate's curriculum, but we feel thatthe course offerings adopted by most universities to acquaint their engineering students with thefine arts fail to meet their objective. Herein we describe a different type of fine arts course forengineering students which approaches the subject matter through an avenue that they can see asvaluable and empowering. The key objectives of the course are to approach the

Conference Session

Recent Developments in Engineering Ethics

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2006 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Marilyn Dyrud, Oregon Institute of Technology

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Liberal Education

actions.The passage and implementation of SOX resulted in concomitant amendments to the FederalSentencing Guidelines, with one crucial difference: what SOX encourages, the guidelinesmandate. Chapter 8, Part B, Section 2 of the 2004 guidelines requires all organizations,including non-profits, to develop and implement an “effective compliance and ethics program”designed to meet two goals: “exercise due diligence to prevent and detect criminal conduct, andotherwise promote an organizational culture that encourages ethical conduct and a commitmentto compliance with the law.”7Formed in 1985 as an independent agency of the Department of Justice, the US SentencingCommission was charged with developing consistent standards for sentencing in federal court

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Liberal Education for 21st Century Engineering

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2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Robert Grondin, Arizona State University; Chell Roberts, Arizona State University

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Liberal Education

, Forms of Intellectual and Ethical Development in the College Years: A Scheme, Holt, Rinehart & Winston, 197014. Craig E. Nelson, On the Persistence of unicorns: The Trade-Off between Content and Critical Thinking Revisited”, In B. A. Pescosolido and R.Aminzade, eds. The Social Worlds of Higher Education. Pine Forge Press. Page 15.421.12

Conference Session

Liberal Education and Leadership

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2009 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Val Hawks, Brigham Young University; John Harb, Brigham Young University; Alan Parkinson, Brigham Young University; Spencer Magleby, Brigham Young University

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Liberal Education

of leadership are many and varied. It was not our intent to summarize all models or evenset forth a model for general consumption or dissemination. The model was and is intended tofocus the efforts of our college to define and meet leadership outcomes. For example, as will bediscussed in a later section, the model serves as a visual outline for a class that is being taught inthe college that includes the dimensions of leadership shown in the model. Page 14.11.4The model, shown in Figure 1, emerges from three critical dimensions of leadership: (a) theleader as person, (b) the leader in organizational systems, and (c) the leader in global

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Liberal Education for 21st Century Engineering

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2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

John Heywood, Trinity College Dublin

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Liberal Education

X for Mr B 10,000 –hr bearing life under given conditions*The original contract itself Proof inherent Engineer witnesses tests; examines parts (being familiar with motors)*A photocopy of the contract which is not Proof available Engineer reviews data of tests run by hisimmediately available employee.X is being and has been regularly Proof circumstantial Motor

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Engineering for Social Justice

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2006 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

George Catalano, State University of New York-Binghamton; Caroline Baillie, Queens University-Kingston

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Liberal Education

integrity of natural systems, an emphasis onsustainable resource use as well as on the importance of ecological security.Accreditation Codes and ModificationsConsidering the existing ABET criteria, Criterion 3 focuses upon program outcomes.10The modified Criterion 3 incorporating the integral model with the changes typed in bold,italics may be written as the following: Engineering programs must demonstrate that their graduates have: (a) An ability to apply knowledge of mathematics, science, and engineering (b) An ability to design and conduct experiments, as well as to analyze and interpret data (c) An ability to design a system, component, or process to meet desired needs (d) An ability to function on multidisciplinary

Conference Session

Liberal Education for 21st Century Engineering

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2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Cherrice Traver, Union College; J. Douglas Klein, Union College

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Liberal Education

,” in proceedings of the 2009 Symposium on Engineering and Liberal Education, June 5, 2009. (Schenectady, NY: Union College, 2009), p. 27.10. ABET Board of Directors, “Engineering Accreditation Criteria, 2009-2010 Criteria.” Available from http://www.abet.org.11. ABET, “The Vision for Change: A Summary Report of the ABET/NSF/Industry Workshops,” May 1995.12. Union College proposal to the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, January 26, 2007.13. P. Catravas, D. McMullen, T. Olsen and Y. Chang, “Interdisciplinary Lightening: A Model for Networking in Advanced Undergraduate Courses,” American Society for Engineering Education's 2006 St. Lawrence Section Conference, November 17-18, 2006.14. R. B. Bucinell and Harold Fried

Conference Session

Writing and Communication I: Innovative Models for Curriculum and Assessment

Collection

2007 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

April Kedrowicz, University of Utah

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Liberal Education

computer-aided design. Students work in teams tocomplete a competitive design project covering all aspects of the design process, from problemdefinition and creativity to construction and testing. Because this is a large lecture course withapproximately 150 students enrolled in Fall and 75 in Spring, the lab sections enable small groupinstruction on formal presentations and writing performance. In addition to the technical courseobjectives, students will speak, write, and work in teams effectively, and communicateprofessionally upon completion of this course. See Appendix B for the list of communicationobjectives to be realized upon completion of ME EN 1000, as well as the other mechanicalengineering courses.Students work toward accomplishing

Conference Session

Thinking around the Bachelor of Arts in Engineering

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2008 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Sharon Jones, Lafayette College

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Liberal Education

words, as shown in Figure 1, themajority of recent reports suggest that we need more undergraduate curricular opportunities thatbridge engineering and the liberal arts so that more graduates are prepared to be leaders in thiscomplex, technological age. Engineering students need access to the benefits of a liberal artseducation, and at the same, time non engineering majors need to improve their understanding ofengineering.The AlternativesAs shown in Figure 2, current efforts to reform undergraduate engineering education to preparegraduates to take leadership roles throughout our economy (as opposed to only traditionalengineering sectors) fall into three categories: (a) incorporate more liberal arts into engineeringeducation, (b) educate non

Conference Session

Innovative Courses/Pedagogies in Liberal Education II

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2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Paul Ross, University of Wisconsin, Madison

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Liberal Education

informed choice. The common intellectualtheme is presented in the context of a mini-conference – bringing together a variety of technical Page 15.1075.4and professional competencies to meet a uniquely 21st century challenge. One of therequirements of this freshman composition course has been that students must “watch” andanalyze the news (using online tools such as Google news and its archives) to be aware of whatis going on space exploration and how new developments can affect specific technical orengineering opportunities and society. Appendix B is an informal summary of some of the mainevents that demonstrated that “space exploration” is a

Conference Session

Normative Commitments and Public Engagement in Engineering

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2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Erin Cech, University of California, San Diego

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Liberal Education

importance of their professional engagement in public welfare. This paper utilizesunique quantitative longitudinal panel data which follow cohorts of engineering students at fourdiverse institutions (MIT, UMass, Smith and Olin) for four years. In order to determine ifprofessional socialization cultivates engaged and socially conscious engineers, I analyze (a)whether engineering programs actually emphasize ethical engagement in issues of publicwelfare, (b) whether students’ social consciousness and belief in the importance of publicengagement increase over the course of their college careers, and (c) whether programmaticemphasis is causally related to these changes. The results suggest there is much work to be done:Not only do programs lack an

Conference Session

Learning to Communicate with Engineers and Non-Engineers

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2008 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Laura Wilson, University of CIncinnati; Teresa Cook, University of Cincinnati; Jo Ann Thompson, University of Cincinnati; James Everly, University of Cincinnati

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Liberal Education

AC 2008-2041: DEVELOPING A WRITING IN THE DISCIPLINES PROGRAM INAN ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY COLLEGELaura Wilson, University of CIncinnati Laura Wilson, University of Cincinnati Laura Wilson is a Field Service Instructor at the University of Cincinnati’s College of Applied Science (CAS). Her main focus is Humanities, specifically English Composition and Technical Writing. She began co-teaching the Senior Design sequence in the Electrical and Computer Engineering Technology Department in Fall 2006. She holds a Masters of Arts from Bowling Green State University in Scientific and Technical Communication.Teresa Cook, University of Cincinnati Teresa Cook, University of Cincinnati Teresa Cook is a

Conference Session

Writing and Communication I: Innovative Models for Curriculum and Assessment

Collection

2007 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Marie Paretti, Virginia Tech; Lisa McNair, Virginia Tech; Diana George, Virginia Tech; kelly belanger, Virginia Tech; Lisa Norris, Virginia Tech

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Liberal Education

Annual Conference and Exposition. 2005. Portland, OR.32. Scoles, K. and H.L. Millan. "Bringing Writing into the ECE Laboratory". In Proceedings of American Society for Engineering Education Annual Conference and Exposition. 2005. Portland, OR.33. Seat, E., J.R. Parsons, and W.A. Poppen, "Enabling Engineering Performance Skills: A Program To Teach Communication, Leadership, and Teamwork". Journal of Engineering Education, 2001. 90(1): p. 1-12.34. Sharp, J. "Using Alumni Networking to Teach Technical Communication". In Proceedings of American Society for Engineering Education Annual Conference and Exposition. 2004. Salt Lake City, UT.35. Shwom, B., et al., "Engineering Design and Communication: A Foundational Course for

Conference Session

Innovative Courses/Pedagogies in Liberal Education I

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2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Ari Epstein, MIT; Joellen Easton, American Public Media; Rekha Murthy, Public Radio Exchange; Emily Davidson, MIT; Jennifer de Bruijn, MIT; Tracey Hayse, MIT; Elise Hens, MIT; Margaret Lloyd

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Liberal Education

Hodges, K., 2007. Students’ perceptions of Terrascope, a project-based freshman learning community. Journal of Science Education and Technology, 16(4), 349-364. Available online at: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s10956-007-9046-63. Epstein, A.W., Mire, B., Ramsey, T., Gareis, K., Davidson, E., Jones, E., Slosberg, M., and Bras, R., 2010. Terrascope Youth Radio: Engaging urban teens in a unique university-community partnership. Submitted to: Proceedings of the American Society for Engineering Education Annual Conference, June 2010. American Society for Engineering Education, Washington, DC. Page 15.640.13

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Critical Thinking and Creative Arts

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2009 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Helen Donis-Keller, Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering

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Liberal Education

). B. The paper provides a level of analysis that elevates the reader’s understanding of the film. (The reader learns something that was not obvious). C. The paper includes any summary of the film as a springboard to making an analytical point. (Summary must serve an analytical purpose/goal within the structure of the paper).2. Goal-Driven and Structured A. The paper has a clearly stated goal (thesis). B. The paper has a logical structure governed by the information the writer wants to convey. (The goal governs the organizational structure of the paper). C. The paper consistently orients the reader in relation to the writer’s goal (introductory “road map,” topic sentences, transitions). i. The

Conference Session

Historical Perspectives for Engineering Education

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2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Alice Pawley, Purdue University; Karen Tonso, Wayne State University

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Liberal Education

themselves.The authors focused primarily on Accession # 1539, Series XI, Subseries A and B. In subseriesA, described in the finding aid as “Clippings, articles and speeches, publications, statistics andsurveys, non-SWE conferences, and library materials that fall into the general category, ‘womenin engineering’” between 1885-2004, we looked at Box 183, which contained newspaper andmagazine clippings collected from both a clippings service that SWE subscribed to (PressIntelligence, Inc. of Washington DC in 1955) as well as those articles that members sent in oftheir own volition. We supplemented these clippings files with items from Boxes 100(membership and section reports and committee information, particularly of the Committee onMinority Concerns) and

Conference Session

Communication and Collaboration

Collection

2009 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Sally Blomstrom, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University; Hak Tam, University of California, Santa Barbara

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Liberal Education

or reports that describe the results. These learning outcomes align well with the ABET 3(d) and 3(g) objectives. Somesections of this course have a service-learning component. Bringle and Hatcher (1995) definedservice-learning as a: credit-bearing educational experience in which students (a) participate in an organized service activity in such a way that meets identified community needs, and (b) reflect on the service activity in such a way to gain further understanding of course content, a broader appreciation of the discipline, and an enhanced sense of civic responsibility (p. 112) [10]. Service-learning pedagogy has theoretical underpinning in experiential learning.Experiential learning is a

Conference Session

Learning to Communicate with Engineers and Non-Engineers

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2008 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Mieke Schuurman, Pennsylvania State University; Michael Alley, Pennsylvania State University; Melissa Marshall, Pennsylvania State University; Christopher Johnstone, Pennsylvania State University

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Liberal Education

Table 1 for the items.Table 1: Public Speaking Self-Efficacy Instrument * When presenting in a class, I am … [indicate level of confidence] confident that I can : a) Make an effective presentation. b) Develop a presentation with good content. c) Keep the audience engaged. d) Connect well to an audience that is familiar with the topic I present. e) Connect well to an audience that is not familiar with the topic I present. f) Deliver a well-organized presentation. g) Design effective visual aids. h) Deliver effectively (eye contact, use of voice, movements, etc.). i) Give an effective summary of the information I presented. g) Answer questions from the

Conference Session

Approaches to Learning Outcomes Assessment in Liberal Education

Collection

2007 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Kyle Oliver, University of Wisconsin-Madison; Traci Nathans-Kelly; Sandra Courter, University of Wisconsin-Madison; Laura Grossenbacher, University of Wisconsin-Madison

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Liberal Education

the department to revise and rerun thecourse. The revised class was team-taught and preserved the seminar-style reading anddiscussion format, but with a larger class size (n = 15). Students in the course had the followingresponsibilities: • Do the assigned readings for each week (see Appendix B for reading list). • Write a short (1-2 paragraph) response to one of the questions posted on the course’s online discussion forum or respond to another student’s post (see Appendix C for sample discussion forum questions). • Attend and actively participate in the weekly two-hour class discussion. • Write a substantial research paper on a topic appropriately related to the course material and themes.The course was open

Conference Session

Liberal Education Division Poster Session

Collection

2007 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Gregory Tonkay, Lehigh University; E. Zimmers, Lehigh University

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Liberal Education

AC 2007-2283: MIGRATION FROM A LEADERSHIP HONORS PROGRAM TOAN ENGINEERING LEADERSHIP MINORGregory Tonkay, Lehigh University Gregory L. Tonkay, Ph.D. is an associate professor and associate chairperson of the Industrial and Systems Engineering Department at Lehigh University. He is also the director of the ISELP and the Electronics Manufacturing Laboratory. Tonkay has been actively involved in curriculum development for the college’s common freshman year and the department’s degree programs and minors.E. Zimmers, Lehigh University Emory W.Zimmers Jr. Ph.D is professor of Industrial Systems Engineering and Director of Enterprise Systems Center at Lehigh University. Zimmers has been responsible

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Normative Commitments and Public Engagement in Engineering

Collection

2010 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

George Catalano, State University of New York, Binghamton; Caroline Baillie, Western Australia; Donna Riley, Smith College; Dean Nieusma, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Chris Byrne, Cascadia Community College; Margaret Bailey, Rochester Institute of Technology; Katy Haralampides, University of New Brunswick

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Liberal Education

AC 2010-1790: INTEGRATING SOCIAL JUSTICE IDEAS INTO A NUMERICALMETHODS COURSE IN BIOENGINEERINGGeorge Catalano, State University of New York, BinghamtonCaroline Baillie, Western AustraliaDonna Riley, Smith CollegeDean Nieusma, Rensselaer Polytechnic InstituteChris Byrne, Cascadia Community CollegeMargaret Bailey, Rochester Institute of TechnologyKaty Haralampides, University of New Brunswick Page 15.772.1© American Society for Engineering Education, 2010 Integrating Social Justice Ideas into a Numerical Methods Course in BioengineeringAbstractA newly developed course introduces students to the analytical and numerical techniques

Conference Session

Beyond Individual Ethics: Engineering in Context

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2008 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Dean Nieusma, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

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Liberal Education

AC 2008-1891: INTEGRATING TECHNICAL, SOCIAL, AND AESTHETICANALYSIS IN THE PRODUCT DESIGN STUDIO: A CASE STUDY AND MODELFOR A NEW LIBERAL EDUCATION FOR ENGINEERSDean Nieusma, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Dean Nieusma’s research and teaching focus on interdisciplinary design collaboration and the expertise that enables it. With a BS in mechanical engineering and another in general studies and a PhD in interdisciplinary social sciences, Dean has worked as a member of design teams in contexts as diverse as the U.S. and European automotive industries; Sri Lanka’s renewable energy sector; and STS, engineering, and design curriculum planning. He teaches across Rensselaer’s Product Design and

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Approaches to Learning Outcomes Assessment in Liberal Education

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2007 Annual Conference & Exposition

Authors

Zhiwei Guan, University of Washington; Jennifer Turns, University of Washington

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Liberal Education

AC 2007-2327: SAME INTERVENTION, DIFFERENT EFFECT: A COMPARISONOF THE IMPACT OF PORTFOLIO CREATION ON STUDENTS’PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENTZhiwei Guan, University of WashingtonJennifer Turns, University of Washington Page 12.1254.1© American Society for Engineering Education, 2007 Same Intervention, Different Effect: A Comparison of the Impact of Portfolio Creation on Students’ Professional Development Paul:…I mean it's one of those things where helped me, or like I wouldn't say I enjoyed [the classroom portion of the course], but I understand it and I understand like why it had to happen, basically, and the